No blacks in Ruckman’s large church

During a visit to Ruckman's church in 2007 it was no surprise that no blacks were to be found in the auditorium among the hundreds in attendance. A typical church running several hundred will normally have at least some blacks, but this was not the case on the day we visited. There is no sign that says "no blacks allowed," but a black person who knows about Ruckman's racist views would have good reason not to feel welcome. 

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  1. Visitor says:

    Oh, like the cartoon depiction in his book of a black woman wearing roller skates and listening to a boom box? Complete with over blown lips and a reference to her ushering in the antichrist?

    nahhh… not racist at all!

    • Visitor says:

      I remember that picture in one of his books.

      Looking back, I am saddened I was too young to realize I was reading the works of a true madman.

  2. Gary E. says:

    why no blacks in his church ?

    When I visited Pensacola and stopped to ask some people where this church was, my question was countered with “Is it a white church or a black church?.” So, apparently that’s part of the accepted custom down there with some. I don’t remember if there were any blacks in his church that day or not, but I’m sure they would be welcomed.

    • Jane says:

      Blacks are not shunned from Bible Baptist Church, Pensacola, FL. Having had attended there many many times more than “just one” I have personally witnessed black people in attendence on many more than one ocassion. Please don’t believe everything you read without studying it out for yourself!

      • Suzanne says:

        I also have attended there many times in the past unfortunately and every single time any minority of any kind mistakenly walked into that place, Ruckman would say racist remarks or “jokes”, or whatever he could do until they left. The word n***** was used very frequently. I am very ashamed that I ever attended a place like that but I was young and stupid and my boyfriend was a member and I would go with him. The very last time I ever went I went outside and actually threw up on the sidewalk because his ignorant, racist rant made me literally sick. I never went back again. So I’m not believing what I read, I witnessed it many times. I can’t believe this man calls himself a “man of God” or that so many people follow his teachings. It’s very sad.

        • Jeff says:

          I Left a church in Panama City Fl because of that same issue. At the time I had no clue as to who Peter Ruckman was other than the guy that did chalk art as he preached. He came to visit our church and did the very same thing…… I never went back after being a member of two years. I also learned that the preacher, a former student of PBI, would ask black visitors if they would feel more comfortable by going to a different church.

  3. Visitor says:

    Its common in all church’s in the area.
    As a previous poster said , most are either black or white.
    With 400 or so listed in the phone book its easy to choose one that meets your color choice.
    ON the back wall they show missionaries in Africa.
    I live around the corner from PBI and attend on occasion.

    • Webmaster says:

      Do phone book listings for churches tell you whether it is a white or black church so you can choose accordingly? I don't think so. If black people know anything about Ruckman's views, they obviously stay away.

      Just because Ruckman's church supports missionaries to Africa does not prove the pastor is not racists in his writings as documented in Racism can be manifested in constant condescending remarks, as we have documented in Ruckman's writings.

      • Charles says:


        Wow. I am amazed at your utter ignorance of racial matters in America. Ruckman’s writings are clearly deliberate attempts at poking the eyes of the PC-Nazis who run this country who constantly tell blacks that they are victims of white oppression while constantly cowing whites into thinking that they cannot have any opinions on racial matters without automatically being a “racist” or a “nazi” or a “KKK” member. Sadly, people like you only serve to reinforce the racial-divide by labeling anybody who purposely is un-PC as a racist. You are like the ELCA Lutheran Church which tries so hard to be “non-racist” by promoting “people of color” that they actually become racist by doing nothing but focusing on race. It’s like affirmative action – it is the most racist program in history. It literally tells the world that “minorities” can’t hack it in educational or work environments without extra help (cheating). You can take the same logic to women. They think the “quotas” help them compete with men – when in reality – the quotas just show that they can’t compete on their own merits. Most talented minorities find quotas insulting. Just as many minorities (and whites) find your ultra-PC race-baiting/pandering insulting. I find it funny that you claim to be a Christian as Christians don’t race-bait…


        • Webmaster says:

          You did not deal with Ruckman’s remarks at which provided proof of his racism from his own writings. We documented objectionable statements from him such as “Negroes have to be carried. Where they are left to themselves they resort to mugging, rape, slavery, dope traffic, and eventually cannibalism.” If Ruckman is not a racist, then no one is. We never defended affirmative action or racial quotas, and we do not know what you mean by “PC-Nazis” or “un-PC.”

        • BettyGail says:

          Thank you Mr. Charles.

    • Jeff says:

      Just because he supports missions in Africa does not prove that he welcomes blacks to join his church.

    • Joe Russ says:

      Anyone going to a church in the south or the north will find almost no white folks in in predominantly black churches. I am at Bible Baptist church twice a year. Always some of different races there. I have never Heard anyone put down a black person.

  4. Visitor says:

    I have been there and have seen blacks in the service and welcomed. And he teaches seperation not rasicm.

    • Webmaster says:

      I have been there also (although only once) and I saw no blacks among the hundreds present. Any blacks who visit would logically be unaware of Ruckman's racist views, because otherwise they would not feel welcome. His racist views are documented here:

      • sarah says:

        I’ve been there several times, seen a small handful of black people there nearly every time I was there and, where is that sign “NO BLACKS ALLOWED” I’ve NEVER seen it!

    • Ann says:

      “Separatism” is not Biblical. Aaron and Miriam got leprosy for being critical of Moses’ Ethiopia n bride.

  5. Vick says:

    As a graduate of PBI, I can confirm that we were told explicitly to not invite any black people to our church services during normal church visitation or any other time we may be inviting someone to church.

  6. Visitor says:

    I was in a meeting with Mr. Ruckman years ago. I was amazed at his intellect but also as strongly impressed with his arrogance. The host pastor, who I love dearly, asked Ruckman to come and give a commercial about his books. He got up and said a few things about his book table then began to mention his new joke book with over 2000 jokes for preachers. It was at that moment I was aghast as he announced that the “N…er” jokes alone were worth the price of the book. There were two very well dressed black ladies sitting in the rear pews. I looked back and saw looks of disbelief at what had just been said. I was embarrassed for the pastor and ashamed at what Ruckman had done. Is he a racisit? I would say absolutely yes!

    • Visitor says:

      I visited the church for a Bible institute graduation and I actually mentioned to my husband that there were no black people at the church that morning. We both felt this was odd until the evening service. After that service there was no double in our minds that Ruckman is a racist and very mean spirited. I am an independent Baptist that believes the KJV is the living word of God. I found him disgraceful and I refuse to ever visit his church again.

      • Michael Sawyer says:

        Ruckman is also a proponent of the Gap Theory, which was very common to fundamentalism not so very long ago. The Gap Theory is inherently racist and has been quietly rejected (as has much of Classic Dispensationalism) by fundamental preachers over the last few decades. Some of the “old guard” have hung on to it, but it has been so discredited that the number is dwindling.

  7. nate says:

    At some point I hope all of you take a step to look at what the manner in which this website seems to perform. There might not be any doubt as to the unorthodox and controversial ways in which Dr Ruckman preaches or composes his books however his endeavours to minister to the lost population of this world are uncomparable. Perhaps some of you should turn your bibles to Matthew 7 and read verse one, no matter your bible version,it should read along the lines of not judging others unless you want to be judged. I read these articles critiquing Dr Ruckmans style of illustrations or his beliefs or the manner in which he runs his church but that’s not what matters. We are given a commission by the Lord to take light into the world, the awesome power and love of God should flow through us to the lost that they might be saved and know his love and salvation and experience eternal life through him. My comment is this: rather than focusing our scope on a man who has dedicated his life to preaching the word of God, our efforts should be exhausted on the missionfield ministering to those who truly need it. Last time I checked I was not perfect and neither are you, just a sinner saved by grace ie stop pointing fingers and spend some time with the Lord to get your heart right.

    • Webmaster says:

      So…does Ruckman never do what you complain about? Does Ruckman never point fingers? Does Ruckman not critique the beliefs of others? Does Ruckman not judge others? How come he gets a pass? You talk about how the “love of God should flow through us,” and yet Ruckman is the one who says that the Bible is “hate literature” and calls God a terrorist! See “Ruckman’s twisted view of God.”

      Ruckman’s “endeavours to minister to the lost population of this world” is not incomparable. There are many Gospel preachers who have seen more people under their ministry saved, called to the ministry, more missionaries sent out, etc., than Ruckman. If seeing many people saved qualified someone to be exempt from criticism, then someone like John R. Rice should have been left alone by Ruckman. And yet Ruckman called Rice a heretic, among other things. See

      Your failure to recognize that Ruckman is far more guilty of what you are accusing me of reminds me of the old adage, “There are none so blind as those who will not see.”

  8. Isaac says:

    It is funny how you try to make a race issue, and create controversy out of nothing. If “blacks” don’t attend services there it is their issue, not his. i think you might be the racist.

    • Ann says:

      Would Jesus show up and be welcomed? Doubtit. What you have done to tthe LEAST of these my brethren, you did it unto me, said Jesus. Ruckman purposely uses offensive language to the least of these (in Ruckman’s eyes). They don’t get water –they get childish name calling.

  9. Dawn says:

    Wow.   I suppose we are fortunate to live in a day when most people realize the Civil War ended a long time ago.  I am one who does not like to judge a person by their color but their Character.  Have you ever confronted Dr. Ruckman about your concerns?  I am not so sure it is "Christian" to have a web page devoted to, dare I say it, hate posts.  I wished I could tell you that everyone in the south, and even many in the north, have been cured of the raciest disease.  I am still amazed when I hear jokes about black people but you and I know they still occur and even black people tell white jokes.  My husband said, chew on everyone's cud and make your own milk.  I have been well taught under Dr. Ruckman.  It has been rare that I heard a bad remark just about blacks.  If you asked him what he meant, I'm sure he would tell you.  I think if I attempted to explain some of his comments it just would not come out right.  I grew up in de-segregation.  It was part of my childhood, busing, crimes, uproar, it was terrible.  Some never got over it.  It was God's grace that changed my heart as I am sure it did many.  We love Dr. Ruckman in our house, in spite of his flaws.  I have some too.  

  10. Tim says:

    Don’t write; Go visit

    Why don't you go visit Dr. Ruckman and have him answer all your concerns?  I know one thing for sure that he will let you do.  He will give you the pulpit as long as you want to discuss anything you feel needs to be discussed.  Give him a call. 

  11. Wenger Man says:

    God bless Peter S Ruckman!

    Hello, devil-guided people who attack Brother Pastor Peter S. Ruckman. Your scathing attacks against Dr. Ruckman are baseless and anti-Christ. Ruckman is not a racist. He welcomes born again black folks who love the Lord Jesus Christ. What he is righteously against are the modern and post modern one world globalistic humanistic distortions called “integration” that are anti-Biblical and which are a front for global communism. Besides, this is not about brother Ruckman. This is about your attacks against the AV1611 King James Bible, God’s preserved words. I am not saying you are not born-again. There are many backslidden people who are born again but who Satan the Devil uses to attack solid Christians. This website is one of them.

    • Jeff says:

      I find it interesting that those that worship their tin god Ruckman, resort to attacking those that shine the light on his errors. They tend to say you are backslidden, lost and other judgmental attacks. Some will even say they do not agree with him on some issues but yet give him a pass on everything…… how does on many gain so much power over the minds of people? I was a member of a church that was associated with PBI and Ruckman…… so glad that I got out of that mess
      And trust me, Ruckman is not a solid Christian

      • Mary says:

        I was also a member of a Ruckmanite church and am glad that I finally saw them for what they actually are. Not only are they heretical but they were some of the most uncaring, arrogant, judgmental “Christians” I have ever met. I don’t think a lot of them even know half of what Ruckman really believes because they tend to keep the worst aspects of it hidden. It really is a cult.

        • Mike says:

          Mary……you are correct on so many points…The church has had a slow blood letting since about 1990. My dad was played and used….willfully. My dad allowed one of his life time friends to be hung out to dry on false accusations..Basically if you don’t “get paid to play”…or…..if you have “knowledge” …you can be “evicted” ..Right now my dad’s 3rd wife is trying to position and use attrition to get her son to cash the chip$ in on my dad’s remaining “Empire” remnants..In the name of the “Lord” of bleed what will be left and used up….I miss my dad “of olden days” ….. my dad’s maid of over 36 years Mrs.Stokes said to me when I came over to dad’s house one time. “Mike, your dad ain’t the same man I once knew”….stated …yep 1990….My dad was a genius in so many ways…..and yet a reckless,decision maker also…..My dad never grasp “No man is a isle”. I’m sorry for your bad experience Mary…..

        • John Foley says:

          Is this Mike as in Mike Ruckman, Peter Ruckman’s son? Just curious, thanks.

  12. Anna says:

    you are free to have your opinion on a blog. I was a member of Dr. Ruckman’s church for 4 years. I know that he would not care what you say about him. He lives to serve God. I know that he is not a racist as you depict and I believe that he has shed many tears for lost souls and led many souls to Christ- black, white and other. It will all be revealed in Heaven and you will see what a fool you are for posting all of this junk. Go out and do something useful and tell someone about Christ.

    • Ann says:

      “Do something useful…”

      One useful thing a follower of Christ does is WARN the people of wolves. Jesus did this frequently as did his disciples. In fact, much of the NT is warning and description of wolves.

      • Sam Mead says:

        There’s a pretty distinct line between warning people about wolves and dragging a man’s name through the mud. This web page is devoted to lying about Dr. Ruckman based on misconstruing his choice of words. When you lie about someone to discredit them (particularly in a written form), that’s called “libel.”

        • Webmaster says:

          You have not even attempted to prove what you allege about me. I personally visited Ruckman’s church on one occasion, so what I stated on this particular page was based on that observation, backed up by a photograph. I made it clear that it was a sole visit in 2007, and I further clarified that it applied “on the day we visited.” I have been careful not to accuse Ruckman based on third-hand information. If either you or I are guilty of libel, it is obvious who is.

  13. Phl says:

    So then every one of us will give an account of ourself to GOD. By thy word thou shalt be justified and by thy word thou shalt be condemned. Some of you all will have a bon fire at the judgement seat of Christ, that will black out the Sun

  14. plrebooknet says:

    Personally, I have more respect for a leader whose opinions are laid out in the open by his own public statements than I do the pretenders that say one thing but harbor different views in secret. Ruckman is from an era that believed a certain way, and sure, it has clouded his reputation, but at least he doesn’t hide his views. Racism is rampant across the globe, I can tell you. It’s not a black/white isolated American feeling, it’s a World Wide Plague of intolerance, and it’s hard for people to break themselves free of it. Someday, though, we’ll all be free of it.

    • Ann says:

      My own father comes from this generation. The distaste he holds for blacks and the mentally handicapped is shameful. Gods Word told us in various ways to love the stranger in our land, the poor, etc. Whether its hidden or proclaimed or a remnant from a past that it was accepted it is WRONG.

    • As a southerner raised by an elderly couple from the Great Depression, let me state that not all of Ruckman’s generation think this way. The view at the time was to keep all separate, and to a degree, this actually benefitted the colored (to use a broad term): in 1960, 80 percent of alleged blacks had a father in the home with flourishing banks, shops, and many owned their own houses. After Lyndon Baines Johnson’s coup for the POTUS and establishment of the grandfather of all American welfare- the poorly-named leftist socio-economic experiment called the Great Society- only eight percent of so-called black homes had a father. This was the same man who said he would have all ——- voting Democrat for the next 200 years… The communistic plank of promoting alternative societies was manifested, and blacks have been not only paying but perpetuating it since. What Ruckman and some from his generation never grasped was that the predestined of God come from all quadrants.

  15. Phil says:

    I knew a pastor that knew how to address his fellow brother when he erred consistently in a thing…many years ago…and after he took him aside and firmly rebuked him, who he respected, the fellow brother went back up to the podium and proclaimed he stood corrected. The difficulty with past correction and present sorrowing over our own personal sin is the question… Are we we experiencing and demonstrating true repentance, grace, and resurrection that the Christ wrought for us and is it being immeasurably, abounding with abundance, being made known to the glory of God the Father, so that it’s evident of future welcoming, the Well Done, blessing we all in the future should strive for in running our own races. My Elder/Brother in the faith, even so is God servant and our Master in heaven will give us our due rewards. May he be gracious and Our High Priest address by His Holy Spirit what we lack. Amen.

  16. Simon says:

    My mother once told me “just because joe jumps off the bridge dosn’t mean you have to jump off as well” it also appears that this web page has far to many self righteous people who certainly have never done anything wrong, and are perfect sinless Christians.

    P.S. purchase the book Ruckman Ruckus of which was written by Geneha Kim, a foreigner. In his book you will find answeres to many if not all of your concerns.

    Take care and God bless.

    • Webmaster says:

      We have indeed purchased Kim’s book, and it has been dealt with here: “Critique of Ruckmanism Ruckus, a new book in defense of Peter Ruckman”

      Some crazy Ruckmanite doctrines we have found that were not mentioned (or at least not dealt with) in the book include the following:

      ◾Marriage is “flesh joining flesh”
      ◾Belief in UFO’s
      ◾Ruckman saying abortion is not murder
      ◾Ruckman’s belief in superstitions
      ◾Twisted view of God’s love
      ◾Where the Word of God was before 1611 (The matter is brought up in the book, but the question is not answered)
      ◾Bizarre government conspiracy theories

      So no, this book does not provide answers to our questions as you claim.

  17. Vito Andolini says:

    Dr Ruckman is in no sense racist….he loves old fashioned soul food!

  18. Denny says:

    I attended his church for a very short time. One morning, he told racist jokes before starting services. He really was a mad man.

  19. Dave Kinsella says:

    I’m usually careful about labeling people, or movements unfairly, but Ruckman takes the biscuit. This is what he says in his book “E=MC2 or: The Bigger the Belfry, the More Room for the Bats “:

    “Does the Book say that Ham’s descendants will serve Orientals and Caucasians no matter what steps are taken to change things? Progress: social promotions for illiterates, banishment of I.Q. tests, affirmative action, and the NAACP.”

    The insinuation from the rest of the passage is that yes “The Book” does say that. His book is full of such filth.

  20. Anonymous says:

    After reading these comments about how blacks are supposedly welcomed into Ruckman’s church, you have to ask yourself a few questions that every Ruckmanite knows to be true.

    Would blacks feel welcomed into this congregation knowing that Ruckman used the “n” word freely in his preaching and teaching over the course of his ministry? And this type of derogatory language is not just limited to Ruckman himself, but also to his predecessor Donovan as well. As a matter of fact, it permeates that whole movement. Every Ruckmanite church I’ve been around seems to have a fixation with race. And rightly so because Ruckman’s literature is FILLED with racist remarks & language.

    Would blacks enjoy using his “reference” Bible in which Ruckman also has no problem inserting the “n” word into his notes in Genesis?

    I’ve listened to hours upon hours of his teachings and have heard Ruckman himself say he would turn down a black family wanting to join his church. He instructed his students in the classroom on how to handle a situation if a black family were to come forward during the invitation to join the church. His instructions were to tell them “we’re not giving an invitation for church membership today”.

    There’s plenty more that could be said about this subject, but I don’t believe for a minute that anyone with an ounce of honesty who has read and knows Ruckman’s teachings on race would believe that blacks are welcome at his church.

  21. Will Becker says:


    I was always saddened by Dr. Ruckman’s views and comments on race. It always bothered me and I would cringe if I thought anyone would ever bring it up to me. Here is my dilemma, and was wondering if you could offer your opinion as to how a Christian is to deal with such a dilemma:

    I have been blessed tremendously by reading Dr. Ruckman’s books over the years, and find that I agree with him about half of the time, I’d say.

    How do you balance the debt and feeling of gratitude to another Christian like Dr. Ruckman, while at the same time admitting and pointing out his faults and rejecting his false doctrines? It is such a dilemma. It’s easy to say “I’ll just give God the credit”. which is true, but you have also read the books of a man and listened to his sermons and they have been a blessing. The Bible teaches that you have to give credit where credit is due.

    How would/do you handle such dilemmas?

    Thank you for your time and response!


    Will Becker

    • Webmaster says:

      I appreciate the spirit in which you wrote your comment.

      It is no secret that God uses imperfect people. It is only by the grace of God that he would use me or anybody else. I can look back over my life and remember many people who were a blessing to me at one time or another. Some of them went off on some doctrine, some ended up making a mess of their lives, but there is no denying that at some point God used them to encourage or help me in some area. I can be forever grateful to them, but it does not mean that if one of them who had serious unresolved issues wanted to become a pastor (for example) that I would back them up and direct people their way. Just because Ruckman has helped someone in some area, it doesn’t mean his writings, recordings and teachings are therefore worthy of being taken serious or recommended to others.

      It must be realized that there is a richness of material on many Biblical topics from all sorts of authors. Discernment is needed in sorting through what is available, but allowing a multitude of qualified yet imperfect people to help us in our Christian walk is how God intended it to be according to Eph 4:11-12: “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.”

      That Ruckman is imperfect in some areas or has been a blessing in some area to someone, somehow, somewhere is not the issue. We are all imperfect sinners saved by the grace of God. The matter is that Ruckman long ago crossed into the “false teacher” category on multiple counts as documented throughout this website. Rom. 16:17 tells us what to do in such a situation: “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.”

      • Will Becker says:

        Thank you Webmaster

        I am reminded of what the Apostle Paul said, “who is Paul or who is Apollos?”

        I think I will just have to give God all the credit, keep hold of the truths I’ve learned and share them without recommending Dr. Ruckman. It is God who is the source of all truth anyway, regardless if it was Ruckman or anyone else passing it along. Many thanks!

  22. Sang says:

    Ruckman teaches that Blacks descend from Ham, and that they are cursed with the curse of Canaan.  I was taught that racial discrimination is the key to sanity.  Blacks are cursed, miserable, lazy people that need food stamps to get by.  this is what I was led to believe.

    Ruckman not only likes to use the word "nigger", but he also believes in Aparthaid, where Whites are segregated from Blacks.  i remember him saying "my dog can smell a nigger from a mile away".

    One of the elders in Ruckman's church is a former KKK member.  Ruckmanites and White supremacists share the same belief that Whites must rule over the Blacks.  When they see Black people, they see freed slaves who are supposed to be under Whites.  Lots of Ruckmanites prefer the Confederate flag over American flag.

    Ruckman says that America is in apostasy and getting soft, because of Blacks.  He believes that Blacks are ruining the government, economy, safety, and Christianity of America.

    When I was a Ruckmanite, I was brainwashed to believe these lies.  Whenever I see a Black person, I would automatically think of the curse of Ham.  Whites rule the world, Asians are lost, and Blacks are cursed by God.  I believed in this lie for 20 years.  I even wrote a book that examines Church history as White European and American history. 

    I no longer believe this racist Ruckman lie.  There is no difference in the Church, and God loves all races equally.  Church history is primarily White history, but this is due to the times of the Gentiles.  As we are approaching the end of New Testament, the Gospel is going to Africa and Asia.  Africa now has the highest percentage of Christian population in the world, and Asia is rapidly rising as world economic power with quickest increase in Christian population.  Korea has 5 of 10 largest church congregations in the world today.  European Christianity is dead.  Greece, Rome, and Northern European churches have the fastest decline in church attendance. 

    Ruckmanites are Southern White supremist trash who think they are the last militant stand of God.  They forget that Korea and Africa have already far surpassed America as the premire Christians today.

    There is no place for racism in the body of Christ.  If one part suffers, the whole body suffers.  Christ died for all, that all might come to the saving grace of God. 

    • The son of Ham was Caanan, father of the Caananites. The Caananaites anthropologically are of the fathers of so-called black people. I agree bigotry has no place in Christ because we are multiple parts of the same body under the Head from all nations, tribes, languages, people. What fascinates me is that while Ruckman was one of the worst quasi-Biblicists in recent memory and one of the greatest sophists. Yes, some of what he said on blacks is half-true. However, to not regard what the Bible says about race is surely folly. Is it an acident the brain cases, hips and other physical features are differ among the races? No, they are a sure sign of a Maker! Theyare an everlasting impossibility to the secularist. They are an annoying reminder to the evolutionist there is a God.


      I quote from Noah Webster's gentle revision of the Authorized Version. 

      Isaiah 26.9-10 "With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yes, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. Let favor be shown to the wicked, yet he will not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness he will deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD."

      Thus saith the LORD, The labor of Egypt, and merchandise of Cush and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over to thee, and they shall be thine: they shall come after thee; in chains they shall come over, and they shall fall down to thee, they shall make supplication to thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is none else, there is no God.

      15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Savior.

      16 They shall be ashamed, and also confounded, all of them: they shall go to confusion together that are makers of idols.

      17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

      18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I amthe LORD; and there is none else.

      19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I have not said to the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.

      Isaias 45.13-19 clearly teaches the real reason for slavery: God took the Sabean or Ethopian out of the paganism of Africa to quicken them elsewhere. The sad truth of slavery is that the African monarchs set the rates and gave permission to the Europeans at which Africans would be sold. The practice continues today with the Bantu or Boko Haram girls. God saved His elect among the African eternally (by birthing penitent faith in them) and temporally (by his spirit, Zechariah 4.6, in the new birth, John 3.1-36, or reviving, 6.63-65, what old time preachers called "awakening").

      Thank God there is an elect as thus described in Apocalypse 5.9 also 7.9. 

      "After this I beheld, and lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, kand kindreds, and people, and languages, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God who sitteth upon the throne, and to the Lamb."

      Romans 8.28-29 

      For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to beconformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the first-born among many brethren.

      30 Moreover, whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.



      • Michelle says:

        6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.

        7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.

        8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

        9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.

        10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

        11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,

        12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.

        13 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,

        14 And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.

        15 And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth,

        16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,

        17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,

        18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.

        19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

        20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations


        They weren't just black people…as Africans. It was also middle eastern peoples too. 


        But, I love your whole brake down. Very interesting. I learned something today also..thank you and most of all The Lord God for that wisdom that you shared.

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