Ruckman's July 2011 periodical says salvation by grace through faith in both Testaments is "anti-biblical heresy of the worst sort"

Here is the paragraph in which he said it to provide some context:

Never mind the dumbbells like the ones listed above; they don’t know about what they are talking. To say that salvation was “by grace . . . through faith” (see Eph. 2:8) in both Testaments (the position taken by the faculty members of every major Fundamental and Conservative College, University, and Seminary in America) is anti-biblical heresy of the worst sort. People in the Old Testament did not even go to the same place as people in the New Testament. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob did not go where you go when you die (2 Cor. 5:8 cf. Eph. 4:8–10); that is an undeniable Biblical fact. (Bible Believers' Bulletin, July 2011, p. 2)

Ruckman sometimes has guest speakers preach in his church who believe salvation was by grace through faith in both testaments. Considering how Ruckman labeled those who hold this view, could it not be said that Ruckman sometimes has fellowship with and invites those who hold to what he considers "anti-biblical heresy of the worst sort" to preach in his pulpit?

For more on this topic, we recommend the following article: Ruckman's multiple plans of salvation for different ages.

19 Responses to “Ruckman's July 2011 periodical says salvation by grace through faith in both Testaments is "anti-biblical heresy of the worst sort"”

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  1. Ron Perry says:

    He is at least giving them a fair shot to prove their point. The other churches don’t allow anyone except those who are from their recognized schools or are in agreement with them. The Bible is very clear on this subject. Old and New Testament salvation are not the same.

  2. Thy word is truth says:

    How could a person who reads the Bible believe salvation is the same in the O. T. ? Just read and see what God has to say and throw the ” scholars” out!

    • Paul says:

      How? Well, when I read my Bible, I come to a passage in Hebrews. To be more precise, Hebrews 11. This is where Paul the Apostle was describing how the O.T. Saints had faith. Look closely at 11:26. There it describes how Moses had faith and he esteemed the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt. How is that possible? Because Christ is preached even in the O.T. Salvation has always been by faith. Anyone who reads their Bible and pays attention to it will see that.

      • Greg says:

        If the above Paul is not aware of, Christ is God. And if he would just read verse 28 he kept the Passover.

      • John Evans says:

        First and foremost anyone who studies the bible must know that all Scripture give given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in rightousness.(2 Tim. 3:16) Second any student of the Bible has to admit and acknowledge that all the Bible is for us not to us. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needed not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of tuth. (2 Tim 2:15) Anyone who can read should have better knowledge than to quote scripture out of the book of Hebrews since that book was written to THE Hebrews during the tribulation. And if Old Testament Salvation is the Same as New Testament salvation(which it isn’t) then why did our Lord and Saviour have to die on the Cross of Calvary. Why not keep the Old Testament way. Which required a sacrifce. The reason is that Jesus Christ died was to be the final Sacrifice. He died for our sin thus Starting New Testament Salvation. To think that Old Testament Salvation and New Testament Salvation are the same is utterly foolish. We don’t have a hebrew priest to serve as a mediator between us and God. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; We do not have to sacrifice a goat or lamb that is without spot or blemish. (And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. Eph. 5:2)

        • charley says:

          I disagree that HEBREWS was written for people living during the tribulation. Jacobs trouble and other ‘tribulation phrases’ aren’t even employed. I challenge you to read through the book of Hebrews and you wont get a main theme concerning the great tribulation. The book of Hebrews has a lot of contrasts between the old and new covenants. Ihave several commentaries and the only one teaching this tribulation stuff is the man from Florida that many people blindly follow.

        • charley says:

          when I said (Right), I was being sarcastic

        • Particular Baptist says:

          If your hermeneutic consists of assigning certain books to fit the dispensational timeline, you might as well do you like JN Darby or CI Scholfield– reject the Bible, that is, follow it to its grandest conclusion as they did. Either the scriptures of truth are for the canon, or they are not and must be rejected toto caelo. The long list of patriarchs said to have been saved by faith where in the Old Testament, which yes is a different covenant, but the agency was no different than that of the new testament. This is also the testimony of Galatians 3.8–9, and the fourth chapter of the book of Romans; was Paul wrong on two counts writing under the same inspiration as other patriarchs? From what you write, you would have that to be so. “Aut insanum est, aut versus facit” or “Either he is mad, or is composing verses”, quips Horace.

          Much learning doth make thee mad.

  3. Bernard says:

    First of all, I am at this website because I met a “Ruckmanite” and he was very confused on some passages. But I will say please read your Bible as it regards to this topic. Salvation was always by faith. Old and new testament. Read Romans 4, Galatians 3 and HEBREWS 11. Old testament saints saved by faith. Not that they were deserving of their salvation but that they believed God.

    I understand things were different in the old testament. The savior hadn’t come. They made sacrifices and gave offerings but all these things were a shadow of Christ. Read the ending of Col 2. How could the old testament saints be saved? By the blood of Christ. The blood of bulls and goats could never take away sin, read Hebrews 10. Once Jesus Christ accomplished his work on the cross. He was raised and gives us a new life. His blood was applied to all those who had faith in the true and living God.

    This is important because God did not change his method of salvation. He revealed it in Christ.

    Romans 16:25-26
    25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

  4. Andrew Longmire says:

    Show me where any OT saint was born again into the body of Christ.

    • Webmaster says:

      I have not said that (about OT saints having been born again into the body of Christ) nor anyone in the comments section so far. Therefore you do not deserve a response.

  5. Wilson says:

    All you people trying to give biblical scriptural doctrinal statements concerning this subject is honestly a waste of time. You cant fix ignorance! People in the old testament couldent have been saved by grace through faith! They was saved the same in the old testament as they will be in the tribulaion. It is a faith works system. Any one who disagrees dont understand or believe in dispensation. And if you disagree my friend its not disagreement with me. Its with Gods word!!! NO NEED TO CAST PEARLS BEFORE THE SWINE. PIGS DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT!

    • Webmaster says:

      It is a “faith works system” at any time?

      That is a contradiction in terms according to the Bible itself! And giving “biblical scriptural doctrinal statements” will not be “A waste of time” as you say. Romans 11:6 (KJV) And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. 

      Romans 4:2-3 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

      The above passage so blatantly contradicts Ruckman’s position, that instead of admitting the Bible is right and he is wrong, Ruckman has to make Abraham an exception. 

      All this and so much more documented on this website prove conclusively that Ruckman is a false teacher who tries to pass himself off as a Baptist.

  6. Wilson says:

    Your scripture in romans is speaking of salvation after the gospel was fullfilled. Saying that now in this current dispensation we are saved by grace.and if by grace we are saved then" works "under the law dispensation  is not longer fit. Eph2:8 …… Also Abraham was not justified by works alone agreed… But by works with faith as romans says works without faith "whereof to glory" so faith without works is dead under the law. Just as grace without faith is dead. Rom 5 teaches that in the time of abraham there was no law. Not until exod19 therefore sin was not imputed unto them… After law it was works but not works alone it was works/faith…. After the gospel it was grace through faith plus 0 minus 0.. During tribulation it will go back to works faith again.

  7. Vadouis says:

    Brother Webmaster, 

    You might consider placing this article where Ruckman flat teaches the same hyper-dispensationalist model described from his writings in a chalk talk.

  8. Wilson says:

    Our churches brother need some more hyper-dispensationalist. We need somebody that can tell the difference between the way God deals with man from adam to moses…. From moses to John3 were people was saved on just the power of God before Jesus fullfilled the law by death burial ressurection… From John 3 to the book of Acts where the transition from law to grace occurred.. Then from there to the tribulation period… Then from there to the millennial reign….. All of these were different dispensations where God dealt with man differently… 

  9. Wilson says:

    No takers aye?? Figures.. Bible usually clears up convictions/teachings that the bible dont teach.. I love it boys keep it coming.. 

    • Why is it Wilson thinks this website is a bully pulpit? If he were consistent, he would realize I Timothy 6.20 through 21 ban all foolish questions as well as strife. The only way a man can be made to differ is his departure from established scriptural orthodoxy. Stated another way, a Ford Pinto is not a Maserati; anyone who says otherwise is only self-duping, being subverted and sinful, condemned by himself. Titus chapter three is yet in the sacred Bible.

      Salvation in either compact, works or grace, is evidently sola fide and sola gratia. See Deuteronomy 30.6, Ezekiel 11, 16, 36 to 37, Jeremias 31 to 32 and Zachariah 4.6. Interestingly, the latter prophet comnects this by way of the crucifixion to the Master Jesus Christ. It seems even in death Ruckman still did not communicate an effective, systematic hermeneutic, even the grammatical historic one behind dispensation.

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