Is Ruckmanism a cult?

It is understood that the term “cult” is often used in a vague sense without a standard definition. Some of the most extreme cults require living in a communal setting, control over personal decisions, cutting ties with family, among other anti-social behaviors. When some people think of a cult, they visualize a tight-knit group of this sort living in a compound in isolation where everyone and everything is bound to the dictates of the cult leader. Those are the most extreme cults. Are those the only groups deserving a cult label? Dictionary.com starts off with an eight-part definition for the term cult, which we provide here for your convenience:

1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: [example] the physical fitness cult.
3. the object of such devotion.
4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5. Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
7. the members of such a religion or sect.
8. any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific.

Only one of the eight possible definitions refer to an extreme communal living behavior, and only in the last part of the definition: "6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader." However, many of the other more broad definitions at dictionary.com focus on a person or ideal that is the focus of devotion or interest.

Further down dictionary.com provides an alternative definition from the British dictionary that does not even mention the isolation from society element:

1. a specific system of religious worship, esp with reference to its rites and deity
2. a sect devoted to such a system
3. a quasi-religious organization using devious psychological techniques to gain and control adherents
4. sociol a group having an exclusive ideology and ritual practices centred on sacred symbols, esp one characterized by lack of organizational structure
5. intense interest in and devotion to a person, idea, or activity [example] the cult of yoga
6. the person, idea, etc, arousing such devotion
7. something regarded as fashionable or significant by a particular group (as modifier): a cult show
8. (modifier) of, relating to, or characteristic of a cult or cults: a cult figure

Any reasonable person that is remotely familiar with Ruckmanism recognizes that it does not involve “members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.” If this was the only way the term cult was used, or its only definition, then Ruckmanism is not a cult. However, many other aspects of the definitions provided (such as “intense interest in and devotion to a person, idea, or activity”) seem to fit Ruckmanism like a glove.

It should be noted that it is a frequent practice for Ruckmanites to bring up extreme cults as a diversionary tactic when defending themselves from cultic behaviour accusations:

…a "cult" under some heretic called "Ruckman." The idea is to identify Bible believers with people like the "Davidians" under Koresh, or Jim Jones. (Bible Believers’ Bulletin. Dec. 1993, p. 11)

Read our research and decide for yourself whether or not Ruckmanism deserves to be described as cultic or an outright cult.

In practice Peter Ruckman has a very loose definition of what constitutes a cult

The fact is that Ruckman himself is very loose with his use of the term “cult.” This can be demonstrated by his frequent use of the “Alexandrian Cult” label.  He even has a 257-page book about what he chooses to call “the Alexandrian Cult.” We examined the titles of articles in the Bible Believers’ Bulletin and counted 91 cases of utilizing the term cult or cultic in the titles of articles from 1978-2014! An example of one of these include “Cult Members at Lynchburg, Va. Speak Up For Jerry Falwell” (Bible Believers’ Bulletin July 1979, p. 2). Here are some scattered examples of how loose Ruckman is in applying the cult term to others, some being respected figures of Christianity:

Cultists…Matthew Henry…A.T. Robertson, Machen, Warfield, Robert Dick Wilson, Gleason Archer (Ruckman, Peter. Minor Prophets Commentary. Pensacola: Bible Baptist Bookstore, 1978, 1984 p. 466)

And the Alexandrian Cult has as many Evangelicals and Fundamentalists in it as it has Liberals and Neo-Evangelicals. (Ruckman, Peter. The book of Minor Prophets Vol. 1 Hosea-Nahum. 1978, 1984 reprint, p. 258)

…these Jim (Bob) Jones people… (Ruckman, Peter. Twenty-Two Years of the Bible Believers’ Bulletin Vol. 8 Essays on Bible Topics. 2010, p. 85)

If we used Ruckman’s own loose definitions of “cultists,” “cult members” and “Jim (Bob) Jones people,” Ruckmanism is indeed a cult! We have written about Ruckman’s use of the “Alexandrian Cult” label in our article The Alexandrian Cult and its Creed: A fantasy of Peter Ruckman.

Ruckman has publicized, repeated and encouraged the cultic statements of others about himself or his views

Ruckman has frequently used his Bible Believers’ Bulletin to publicize cultic statements about himself written by others. Observe these examples:

The Filipino people are so loyal. Every one of these men read your literature, Dr. Ruckman. The whole time I was there, we would sit out under the stars at night and have little “preacher” sessions. Your name was in much of the talks. They have learned a lot from your influence. They told me that you are the “big dog” and they are “the puppies.” (“A Report From the Philippines” Bible Believers’ Bulletin. Feb. 2008, p. 18)

You and your friends are so filled with “Ruckmanitis” that you are so blind to the truth that God has revealed to the Body of Christ via Dr. Ruckman. … Reject dozens of Bible truths that God has revealed to Dr. Ruckman with the result being that they stay thirty years behind the Body of Christ and never catch up. You see, “Ruckman” is not the problem. The Lord has hidden these great truths from them because they have rejected the source from which Dr. Ruckman got them. He is only guilty of believing the source: the Book—the Authorized Version of 1611. (Waddle, Tom. “The Source” Bible Believers’ Bulletin. May 2008, p. 17)

As you now, [sic] the faculties and staffs of the fifty major Christian Colleges in America have decided that “Ruckmanism is a cult,” and “Ruckman is a cult leader who teaches heresy.” I thought you might like to see the other side of the coin.…Then I came in contact with Brother Ruckman’s material. It was absolutely, totally from God. I have no doubt whatsoever! Brother Ruckman’s work confirmed to me, factually and historically, what God was trying to tell me for a long time. … I get letters like that all year round. (“From a Typical ‘Cult Member’” Bible Believers’ Bulletin. June 2006, p. 20)

There's an excellent technique. (Bible Believers’ Bulletin March 1992, p. 5) [The technique spoken of is for pastors to ask prospective missionaries about Ruckman. If he talks negative, conversation is over.]

The technique spoken of in that last quoted is approved of, which is cultic, because in the end—for Ruckmanites—it is all about Ruckman! A side benefit, however, is that non-Ruckmanite missionaries would surely not feel comfortable ending up inadvertently in a Ruckmanite church.

There is an extreme and unbalanced reaction against those who disagree with Ruckmanite views

Ruckman blasts others in some of the crudest ways imaginable for not holding to his dogmatic views. If you don’t believe his nonsense that the KJV contains advanced revelations, corrects the Greek and Hebrew, is superior to the originals, etc., and you dare warn others about him, Ruckman will label you a cultist. For example, he has placed a defender of the KJV in his “Alexandrian Cult,” namely Bruce Lackey, author of Why I Believe the Old King James Bible and Can you Trust your Bible? (he answers in the affirmative). Ruckman even called Lackey an “elitist tradesman from the Alexandrian Cult.” (Ruckman, Peter. King James Onlyism versus Scholarship Onlyism. p. 3). Notice these other examples:

They [other KJV defenders] are not King James Bible champions. They are mean, thieving, sneaky, little, egotistical brats who have achieved “success” through fraud. (Bible Believers’ Bulletin Oct. 2004 p. 14)

Look out for any Fundamental, Pre-Millenial, Independent, Soul winning boob that spits, spats, splutters, or flushes when you say “Ruckman.”…he’d burn the King James Bible if it wouldn’t “hurt his testimony.”  (Ruckman, Peter. Acts. 1974, 1984, p. 643)

We call these diseased pastors “patients.” They are mentally sick. The disease is called “Ruckmanitis,” or “obsession with Ruckman.” Bring up that name, and they will foam at the mouth (if they are honest!). …these powerless, fruitless fakirs… (Ruckman, Peter. BBB reprint #7 (Strictly Personal). 2004, Pensacola: Bible Baptist Bookstore, pp. 490-491)

The latest and most fantastic cult that has sprung up among Baptist “Fundamentalists” is the “anti-Ruckman-King James Only Cult.” (Ruckman, Peter. Bible Believers’ Bulletin Aug. 1998, p. 3)

Ruckman was hypersensitive at times and frequently reacted to his critics with a vengefulness far exceeding the scope of the matter being responded to.

Ruckman’s followers have often defended him in a cultic fashion

Some Ruckmanites are so cultic that in one case one declared the calendar is wrong in order to not have to admit that Ruckman was mistaken in guessing the wrong date for the rapture! This is evident in a book by the title Ruckmanism Ruckus by Geneha Kim, a 2006 graduate of Ruckman’s Bible institute. The lengths to which Kim goes to defend Ruckman in his book constitutes a tragic but likewise fascinating look into cultic behavior.

Kim totally buys into Ruckman’s excuse for guessing wrongly that the rapture would occur in 1989: “The reason why God did not come back at May 14, 1989, is because today’s calendars are in error.” (p. 166) Kim continues defending Ruckman as follows on p. 166: “Dr. Ruckman did not do anything wrong. He merely timed the dates from the Bible and used scripture references for his guidelines.” (p. 166) Kim refuses to see anything wrong with what Ruckman did and brings it up yet again in another chapter as follows: “But as already covered in Chapter 10, Dr. Ruckman is not proven wrong on his timing of the second advent.” (p. 291) Notice the cultic use of the all-inclusive word always in the following statement: “However, Dr. Ruckman has always abided by the scriptures as his final authority, including his date-setting of the Rapture.” (p. 167)

His thinking is so twisted that he blames the calendar for being wrong instead of admitting that Ruckman was wrong in his rapture date guesses! What more proof could be needed to establish that at the very least Ruckmanism is a personality cult?

Ruckmanites are often silent about some of Ruckman’s most controversial views

Ruckman’s unbiblical position that abortion is not murder and life does not begin at conception is well known. In light of this it would be of interest to briefly look at the case of how a Ruckmanite handles Ruckman while in disagreement with his views on abortion. Pastor Glen Stocker, who studied under Ruckman, wrote a 52-page booklet in 1991 by the title What God says about Abortion vs. Pro-Life. In his booklet, Stocker makes some good arguments from Scripture, science and medicine that are in contradiction with what Ruckman has taught. For this Stocker should be commended. However, he is absolutely silent about Ruckman’s views on abortion in the booklet (he surely knew, having graduated from PBI). Not only did he not warn against Ruckman's views on abortion in the book, he actually mentioned Ruckman positively (for one of the quotes he is known for, unrelated to abortion) in passing on p. 12! Stocker has continued to associate himself openly with Ruckman, such as scheduling Ruckman to preach in his very own church the very year he wrote the booklet (Bible Believers’ Bulletin Jan. 1991, p. 7). Stocker was also a keynote speaker in Ruckman's 2008 Bad Attitude Blowout.

Another example of a Ruckmanite being silent about some of Ruckman’s most controversial views would be Geneha Kim, whom we already mentioned along with his book. Even though Ruckmanism Ruckus was a lengthy book (nearly 400 pages) and he assured readers on p. 311 “I have covered as much as I could in which Christians find fault with Dr. Peter S. Ruckman,” notice all the Ruckmanite teachings that were not mentioned (or at least not dealt with) in the book:

  • Marriage is “flesh joining flesh”
  • Belief in UFO’s
  • Ruckman saying abortion is not murder
  • Ruckman’s belief in superstitions
  • Twisted view of God’s love
  • Where the Word of God was before 1611 (the matter is brought up in the book, but the question is not answered)
  • Bizarre government conspiracy theories

Ruckmanites often feel excused for their silence by repeatedly making statements to the effect that “we are not saying that Ruckman is perfect” and leaving it at that. Only the most daring among them dare to specify areas in which Ruckman is wrong in their eyes. It often occurs only when someone questioning Ruckmanism brings up the offending topic. In that case a Ruckmanite will often state something akin to “I’ve never said Ruckman was perfect” and they will often minimize the matter and insist that it is still harmless and productive to read after Ruckman.

Ruckman’s criteria for spotting a cult is self-condemning

Assisted by a quote from Walter Martin, Ruckman provides the following brief formula for spotting a cult:

The way you spot a cult is by their use of a word which to them bears a different meaning than the Biblical use of the term. (Ruckman, Peter. The Bible Babel. 1994, p. 1)

We have done a number of studies in which we believe Ruckman is guilty of this exact practice in his teachings. Notice these examples, among others:

Astonishing things Ruckman claims to know that no one else can find in the Bible

Ruckman’s unbiblical spiritual circumcision teaching

Ruckman: “No women in heaven”

Ruckman’s unbalanced definition of marriage

Ruckman: “The destruction of a child in the fetal or embryonic stage is NOT counted as murder”

Ruckman’s self-serving interpretation for 2 Timothy 3:16

Ruckman’s multiple plans of salvation for different ages

False doctrine is prominent in its main teachings

The above articles listed also serve to prove that false doctrines are an integral part of Ruckmanism, which is at the core of all cults. We are not covering false doctrine in depth in this article because it is dealt with extensively throughout Ruckmanism.org. Ruckmanite churches typically try to identify themselves as Baptists, which is very deceptive considering that the teachings they harp on the most are not historic Baptist doctrines. What Baptist churches were known for teaching a combination of believing in plans of salvation requiring works for certain periods, no women in heaven, Jesus could have sinned if he wanted to, spiritual circumcision, space travel and reproduction in heaven, sleeping together constituting marriage, the KJV can correct the Greek, is doubly inspired, and contains advanced revelations; rapture date guessing, abortion is not murder, among other reprehensible and unbiblical views we have documented at ruckmanism.org? Only God can see the heart, but it seems as if Ruckmanites churches who place "Baptist" in their church name are committing religious fraud in hopes of luring in the unsuspecting.

Ruckman himself teaches that cult leaders cultivate their education background to pass themselves off as scholars

Notice what Ruckman wrote about this:

In addition to this, every Cult leader cultivates his (or her) educational background so that he (or she) will pass off as a “scholar” even where not one earned degree shows up. (Ruckman’s Battlefield Notes. 2003, p. 158)

Ruckman does have an earned doctorate, but this should not excuse him from being suspected of using this very tactic. Does Peter Ruckman actually say not to trust any scholar except himself? He doesn’t say it outright, no doubt because of the anti-cultic backlash he would receive. However, in examining Ruckman’s abundant writings, a pattern clearly emerges. He denounces all other Christian scholars of recent times (often going back hundreds of years), and at the same time keeps propping himself up as the one scholar to fill that void (all the while being careful not to call himself a scholar). Ruckmanites are quick to point out times when Ruckman has stated that he is not a scholar. However, this is false humility, because he despises the term “scholar.” He has instead referred to himself as a “professional teacher,” which is virtually synonymous with calling himself a scholar. (Bible Believers’ Bulletin. Sep. 1993, p. 4)

Ruckman stated that cult leaders cultivate their educational background to pass themselves off as scholars. But does not Ruckman practice this himself? Observe this example:

By 1901, the Lord God Almighty was “fed up” (see Isaiah 1:10-13) with Christian colleges, seminaries, and universities, and as J. Frank Norris and Billy Sunday tried to get things back together against hopeless odds, the Lord decided he would raise up a “joke on scholars.” The joker’s name was Peter Ruckman. … What the Lord needed was a “bookworm” who could digest 500 years of Christian scholarship, interpret it correctly, place it in it proper light in regard to the Holy Bible, and defend it against 5,000 to 10,000 apostate, conservative scholars who would rather die and go to hell than submit to God’s authority. The pedagogy began November 19, 1921 [date of Ruckman’s birth]… (Bible Believers' Bulletin. Dec. 1985, p. 2)

Some cultic leaders know better than to publicly demand he be followed without question. Many are more subtle, and use manipulative tactics to tear all other leaders and teachers down leaving only themself to follow. The cultic leader may not be on record stating that only he should be followed, but that is by design when more subtle tactics suit their purpose. Ruckman more commonly uses the tactic of self-elevation or name calling and ridicule when others he targets (often those who question him publicly) do not agree with his strange teachings. See also Ruckman teaching that no other scholar can be trusted other than himself.

Ruckmanites make exclusive “us versus them” type statements that have a cultic slant

Preachers who will not preach on the street are not followers of Jesus Christ or Paul (Bible Believers' Bulletin Mar. 2001, p. 1)

If they refuse to be intimidated by “Ruckman,” then they must stay subverted to the apostates who intimidated them; (Ruckman, Peter. BBB reprint vol 6 Worldwide Damnation/Homosexuals. Pensacola, FL: Bible Baptist Bookstore, 2003, p. 572)

“Ruckmanism” or “heresy.” You say, “Why?” BECAUSE IT IS “SOUND DOCTRINE;” IT IS BIBLICAL TRUTH FROM THE HOLY BIBLE. (Bible Believers' Bulletin Feb. 2006, p. 14)

“Ruckmanitess”: a contagious, terminal disease which sidetracks every proud, self-righteous, blind, Bible-perverting “Fundamentalist,” Conservative, and Evangelical who ever gets infected. (Bible Believers' Bulletin Mar. 2007 p. 14)

“Ruckmanism” is a smoke screen put up to cover and protect the sins of those who will not submit to any authority higher than their personal opinions and preferences. (Ruckman, Peter. The Last Grenade, p. 238)

“Ruckmanism” is an imaginary device invented to protect the income of the modern apostate Fundamentalist. …Ruckman is only a “threat” to the income of educated apostates; they know it. That is why they talk and act like they do ($$). (Bible Believers' Bulletin June 1994, p. 19)

Ruckmanites are obsessed with Ruckman

We recently spent a little time to see what Ruckmanites were posting on Facebook and Youtube. Here are a few examples of what was noticed that prove how it is not hard to find cases of cultic obsession with Peter Ruckman:

1. A public Facebook post by a Ruckmanite pastor looking for someone to fill his pulpit during his absence: "Hello, looking for someone who is a Bible Believer who supports Dr. Ruckman to come preach…"

2. “I thank God for Dr. Peter S Ruckman” Sermon title on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy_DUUfRqcg&t=921s

3. “My journey to find Dr. Peter S. Ruckman and the perfect Word of God” lecture title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlbmuN9CpAQ&t=37s

4. “How to honor Dr. Ruckman’s Legacy” sermon title according to the speaker, although assigned the title “Reformed Ruckmanism” when uploaded to Youtube. At the 2 hours 15 minute mark, Bill Grady affirms, “I have gained from the Ruckman position. He is my hero. He always will be. And I love his memory, because he changed my entire life.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fkxrwvuUY

5. My Tribute To Dr. Peter S. Ruckman” video on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTLoBJ-XEVY&t=36s

6. A tribute to the Best Bible teacher this world has ever known, Dr. Peter Sturges Ruckman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q2N4o-79Ps

Obviously, Ruckmanism on the internet is not limited to Facebook and Youtube. Ruckmanism is rampant on many websites and forums, especially those that deal with Bible version issues. Here is one brief example of a statement we found on a forum that is cultic through and through: “I agree with everything Dr Ruckman has ever said.” https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/peter-s-ruckman-has-died-christianity-loses-a-great-teacher.1618863/

Conclusion

We do not expect to persuade many Ruckmanites to abandon Ruckmanism with our writing and research. This is because it is in many ways a personality cult. The more Ruckman is exposed, the more Ruckmanites simply coalesce around each other and become even more defensive and protective of their leader. Ruckmanism revolves around a person, and that person is not Christ (remember the “Ruckman changed my entire life” testimony?). Their loyalty is to Ruckman, not Christ and his Word. Pointing out false teachings do not phase them. The more false teachings are brought to light, the more voraciously they defend him. We don’t see the same eagerness to defend Ruckmanite-type teachings prevalent among them that did not originate from Ruckman himself. The loyalty seems to be centered more on a man and his personal writings/audio/video teachings then on a general system of teachings.

What do you think? Is Ruckmanism a cult? Comment below.

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  1. Nate Beck says:

    Christians really have to be careful with the term cult. To many historians, Jesus and the disciples were a cult, and to many other groups today many small churches would fall into how they want to define the term as well. Personally, I've  never liked using the term because it's too broad in definition. Biblical terms such as false teacher, false prophet, and false brethren are so much better than "cult".

  2. Nate Beck says:

    There are many Ruckmanites who I would call "cultic" if I was going to use the term, but a full blown cult just doesn't apply because there simply isn't any single unified group of "Ruckmanites" anywhere, unless of course you count Bible Baptist Church in Pensacola. Either way, this is a very interesting discussion!

  3. Anonymous says:

    Having spent many years in the movement, having been infected by the spirit of Ruckman, & having been involved in a Ruckman church & his followers from a young age. I would say that Ruckmanism is a cult. There is ample evidence of this & I do not know how much more you would need outside of this very website.

    Your'e either with Ruckman or against him. I have yet to meet someone who is neutral regarding Peter Ruckman. Everyone I have met either hates Ruckman or loves Ruckman. And for good reason. Ruckman has set it up this way by his manner of writing. You either love Ruckman & hate his enemies, or you hate Ruckman & love his enemies. He demonizes and frames his detractors with such venom & puts them in such a light that you cannot love them. Ruckman's poison pen describes them as horrible, lying, bible denying, bible correcting, apostate, unbelieving,  nincompoops who don't know up from down (and I'm being fairly gracious to Ruckman here). He then portrays himself & his followers as the only standard & possessors of truth. No one else has anything of value to add, nor have they ever, because they were not & are not, as smart or as close to God as Ruckman. So Ruckman has fulfilled his goal in gaining a following by lying, misrepresentation, exaggeration, & novel false doctrines & insults. That is the mark of a cult.

    Every Ruckaminte I have met acts just like Ruckman, teaches like Ruckman, uses a white board or chalk board like Ruckman, & teaches the same doctrine as Ruckman. I have heard them denounce some of Ruckman's teachings PRIVATELY, but I have yet to hear any public disagreement from Ruckamnite pastor about Peter Ruckman's doctrines. Ruckman or one of his cronies is always the standard by which somethig is to be judged if you are a Ruckmanite. If your'e not a Ruckmanite they might give you a token nod as a Christian, but your'e really outside the camp so to speak, & you have a lot to learn. I remember Ruckman telling his students one time that when they went out into the ministry to start working at a church somewhere after they graduated from his institute, that other preachers would be nervous around them becasue Ruckman gradutes knew so much more bible & doctrine than everyone else. Other preachers & pastors really don't kow anything in the eyes of a Ruckmanite. You are the cream of the crop, the remnant in the midst of Christian apostates in the Laodecian church age, the sole possessor of truth that can straighten out all of Christianity if only others will listen, if your'e a Ruckmanite. That is the mark of a cult.

    I actually had to read & listen to material that was critical of Ruckman before I finally had my eyes opened to the truth about this man & his teachings. I had a mentor who I admired greatly & they introduced me to Ruckman. I was fed all the usual jargon about his wisdom, smarts, & wit which in turn intrigued me so that I became enamored & spellbound. And I have found this same phenomenon to be true everywhere Ruckman is found. He is the smartest, most spiritual man in the room so you had better listen up. That is a cult. 

    Ruckmanism has found a doctrine that no one has ever found before, that no one else knows about, & so therefore you have a special status as a follower of Peter Ruckman. Just like the Jehovah's Witnesses & the Mormons: Christianity was fractured & apostate until they came along with a special charasmatic leader sent from God & restored it back to it's true purity with a special book, a special prophet, & a special revelation. So it is with Peter Ruckman's extreme KJVOism & dispensationalism. That is a cult & Ruckman was the cult leader

    Webmaster, your'e right. Ruckmanism is about Peter Ruckman & his novel teachings. Not the Lord Jesus Christ. That's why it's a false cult that needs to be exposed. 

    • Webmaster says:

      Thank you as always for your valuable insight as someone who was once an insider.

      • Garry Whitehouse says:

        Webmaster define what a cult is. Because Ruckmans does not deny The Virgin birth,he does not deny The Trinity, also he doesn't deny the rapture of the believer's nor does he deny the 1,000 reign of Christ.So does that sound like a cult to you.

        • Webmaster says:

          I in fact started off with a definition for a cult, from a neutral source no less! I even provided Ruckman’s brief definition of a cult. Have you asked yourself if all those who Ruckman calls members of a cult deny the virgin birth, the Trinity, the rapture, the 1000 year reign? Oh, I forgot, you Ruckmanites refuse to hold Ruckman to the same standard you impose on others because…you fill in the blank!

    • Nate Beck says:

      As a Christian who also grew up in the faith devouring everything Peter Ruckman wrote, I think you're "either, or" argument doesn't hold water. The argument that you either completely hate Ruckman or completely love Ruckman is an extremely immature statement and unrealistic.

      For example, as I matured in Christ, I began to see the serious problems with Peter Ruckman's attitude, some of his claims and his follower's man worship, and so I have no problem blasting Ruckman or his followers when they're wrong. However, God has also given me the good grace to still be able to agree with Ruckman where he is actually scriptural and right on. Just an observation from another "insider" who used to be in the Ruckmanite camp.

      • Anonymous says:

        Nate Beck, 

        There may have been some misunderstanding with the comments I made. I'm not sure if you were taking my words as a response to what you wrote, but I was not trying to rebut anything you said. And perhaps I did not communicate very well what I was trying to get across, and so I will try to be a little more clear. You wrote that you don't believe Ruckmanism is a cult, and you have a right to your opinion, and I can respect that opinion.

        When I wrote my comments, I was not intending to present it as an "arguement" for or against anything, nor was I looking to debate whether Ruckamanism is a cult.  I was simply trying to give my experience of what I have witnessed in my personal dealings with Ruckmanism & Ruckmanites.

        When I wrote that your'e either for or against Ruckman and you either love him or hate him, I meant that Ruckman doesn't leave any wiggle room for disagreemant when he writes or teaches. What he says is law, and there can be no alternatives. And if you do disagree or take a different approach to the scriptures or the doctrines that he espouses (as so many have in the present and throughout church history), you are labeled as a lying hypocrite, a bible denying heretic, a bible corrector, and so on. When he writes that way and teaches that way, you really only have two options: love him or hate him. That's why he had so many enemies, even within the ranks of fundamentalism, not to mention outside of Baptisitic circles as well. And that's why he had so many loyal followers. If your'e in his circle, you almost have to make a choice to either be with him or against him, becasue Ruckman was always right. Sure, Ruckman might give a token concession here or there to people he disagreed with. He might give a nod sparingly to his enemies and even give them credit in certain areas or compliment on occasion, but then he'd turn right around and call then a heretic at the drop of a hat. That's what made Ruckman a walking contradiction. And the fact that I never heard any of his followers pick up on those massive contradictions one time in all of my years of interaction with them, proves cultic to me.

        I never said I disagreed with Ruckman 100% of the time in everything. Of course I don't, and that would be a foolish mindset to espouse. I learned plenty from Ruckman, as you can from anyone. There are people throughout the entire scope of Christianity that would find plenty of things with which to agree with Ruckman. But that doesn't equal endoresement of recommendation. When it came to dealing with people, Ruckman tried to distance himself from mainstream Christianity as much as possible becasue he hated the idea of being assoctied with them because he thought everyone was a heretic based (many times) upon secondary issues. And so, the way I see it, he had many haters and many lovers/supporters because that's the way he liked it.

        I'm not trying to portray myself as a victim. I'm just someone who went through something, and found a really great website with a lot of valuable information, and wanted to put my "two cents" in and maybe it will benefit someone else or prevent another from falling into the same trap as myself.

        I would not recommend Ruckman to anyone because I do not believe he was an honest man and he confuses much more than he clarifies. I'm still trying to unlearn errors from his books & audio. You could probably shrink his massive collections of writings into a fairly small volume if you could eliminate all of the diatribes & rhetoric, because in my opinion, that was about 80% of his material. He was constantly looking for a fight, or to prove someone wrong, or correct someone. I believe he was very manipulative and would be an extremely poor example for any Christian to follow as this website has proven conclusively. God bless

        • Nate Beck says:

          Thanks for the clarification. Yeah Ruckman is a very mixed bag and there are so many issues we could continue to discuss. I didn't take any offence to anything you said, just thought I'd point out the problem in the "either, or" argument, although you did a good job clarifying what you meant. As for myself, there are a few books by Ruckman I would still recommend, but only to very seasoned and mature Christians. Thank God we survived his flaws.

    • Dave Brown says:

      Most, if not all, of the ruckmanites that I have encountered drove beater cars with bible verses plastered all over the car.

      • Anonymous says:

        That's definitely one of the trademarks of a Ruckmanite. And it's almost a competition and a sign of spirituality between themselves and the rest of the world to see who can post more scripture on their cars or on their front lawns. Who shouts louder at church. Who has read their bible through more times. Who preaches on the street and who doesn't. It's a never ending battle for supremacy and superiority 

  4. Anonymous says:

    https://youtu.be/o-fkxrwvuUY
     

    Here is a video of William P. Grady, a disciple of Ruckman, preaching at a church somewhere. 

    At about the 23:00 mark he begins his message and followers of Ruckman, called Ruckmanites, are portrayed as a remnant left over from the "Philadelphia church period" in the "Laodecian church age" who have kept the word of God. Grady calls them the "core group" in the KJV only camp. Ruckmanites are equated with the Waldensians of Church history and Peter Ruckman with their leader Peter Waldo. 

    Even among KJV onlyist, Ruckmanites are the stalwarts, the elite, & the cream of the crop. 

    It is also notable that Grady is inventing his own interpretation of the phrase "have kept thy word" in Revelation 3:8 to mean the the keeping of an English translation of the Bible. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and allow that perhaps he is using it as a spiritual application to his audience, but I don't believe he ever clarified that in his message so that causes great confusion in my opinion.

    Grady also invents new terms such as "the Philadelphia church period" and "the Laodecian church age" which are found nowhere in scripture. Again, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but it sounds as if he lays it out as a dogmatic doctrine that is true.

    In my opinion, these are cultic traits that continue to flourish even after Ruckman is gone.

     

  5. Fred says:

    This is an easy answer. If the first words out of a Preacher , Teachers mouth aren't let's see what Gods word has to say about this or that, turn with me in your KJV bible chapter and verse, whatever topic they're teaching on , If they are not teaching from the word of God as He is the final authority on all matters then run your dealing with a cult. The problem with those who take on authority over God , they get puffed up to the point of lie after lie and it gets harder for them to repent of their nonsense and their followers seem to coax them on. Stop! putting these men in places of authority over God and other men. 

    2 Timothy 3:16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    Who will do the Judging on all things, for the saved or unsaved? That would be God, Jesus Christ.

    Saved —> 2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

    Unsaved —> Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

    Funny I didn't see Ruckman , Hyles, Gipp , Olsen , MacAuthur , or any other Pastor or Dr. or Preacher , etc. in the place of Jesus Christ as final judge, yet the way some of you people carry on, you would think their names should appear in the scripture , it tells me something about you and it's not a good.

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