No blacks in Ruckman's large church

During a visit to Ruckman's church in 2007 it was no surprise that no blacks were to be found in the auditorium among the hundreds in attendance. A typical church running several hundred will normally have at least some blacks, but this was not the case on the day we visited. There is no sign that says "no blacks allowed," but a black person who knows about Ruckman's racist views would have good reason not to feel welcome. 

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Oh, like the cartoon depiction in his book of a black woman wearing roller skates and listening to a boom box? Complete with over blown lips and a reference to her ushering in the antichrist? nahhh... not racist at all!

I remember that picture in one of his books. Looking back, I am saddened I was too young to realize I was reading the works of a true madman.

When I visited Pensacola and stopped to ask some people where this church was, my question was countered with "Is it a white church or a black church?." So, apparently that's part of the accepted custom down there with some. I don't remember if there were any blacks in his church that day or not, but I'm sure they would be welcomed.

Blacks are not shunned from Bible Baptist Church, Pensacola, FL. Having had attended there many many times more than "just one" I have personally witnessed black people in attendence on many more than one ocassion. Please don't believe everything you read without studying it out for yourself!

Its common in all church's in the area. As a previous poster said , most are either black or white. With 400 or so listed in the phone book its easy to choose one that meets your color choice. ON the back wall they show missionaries in Africa. I live around the corner from PBI and attend on occasion.

Do phone book listings for churches tell you whether it is a white or black church so you can choose accordingly? I don't think so. If black people know anything about Ruckman's views, they obviously stay away. Just because Ruckman's church supports missionaries to Africa does not prove the pastor is not racists in his writings as documented in http://www.ruckmanism.org/racism. Racism can be manifested in constant condescending remarks, as we have documented in Ruckman's writings.

Webmaster, Wow. I am amazed at your utter ignorance of racial matters in America. Ruckman's writings are clearly deliberate attempts at poking the eyes of the PC-Nazis who run this country who constantly tell blacks that they are victims of white oppression while constantly cowing whites into thinking that they cannot have any opinions on racial matters without automatically being a "racist" or a "nazi" or a "KKK" member. Sadly, people like you only serve to reinforce the racial-divide by labeling anybody who purposely is un-PC as a racist. You are like the ELCA Lutheran Church which tries so hard to be "non-racist" by promoting "people of color" that they actually become racist by doing nothing but focusing on race. It's like affirmative action - it is the most racist program in history. It literally tells the world that "minorities" can't hack it in educational or work environments without extra help (cheating). You can take the same logic to women. They think the "quotas" help them compete with men - when in reality - the quotas just show that they can't compete on their own merits. Most talented minorities find quotas insulting. Just as many minorities (and whites) find your ultra-PC race-baiting/pandering insulting. I find it funny that you claim to be a Christian as Christians don't race-bait... Charles

You did not deal with Ruckman's remarks at http://www.ruckmanism.org/racism which provided proof of his racism from his own writings. We documented objectionable statements from him such as "Negroes have to be carried. Where they are left to themselves they resort to mugging, rape, slavery, dope traffic, and eventually cannibalism." If Ruckman is not a racist, then no one is. We never defended affirmative action or racial quotas, and we do not know what you mean by "PC-Nazis" or "un-PC."

I have been there and have seen blacks in the service and welcomed. And he teaches seperation not rasicm.

I have been there also (although only once) and I saw no blacks among the hundreds present. Any blacks who visit would logically be unaware of Ruckman's racist views, because otherwise they would not feel welcome. His racist views are documented here: http://www.ruckmanism.org/racism

As a graduate of PBI, I can confirm that we were told explicitly to not invite any black people to our church services during normal church visitation or any other time we may be inviting someone to church.

I was in a meeting with Mr. Ruckman years ago. I was amazed at his intellect but also as strongly impressed with his arrogance. The host pastor, who I love dearly, asked Ruckman to come and give a commercial about his books. He got up and said a few things about his book table then began to mention his new joke book with over 2000 jokes for preachers. It was at that moment I was aghast as he announced that the "N...er" jokes alone were worth the price of the book. There were two very well dressed black ladies sitting in the rear pews. I looked back and saw looks of disbelief at what had just been said. I was embarrassed for the pastor and ashamed at what Ruckman had done. Is he a racisit? I would say absolutely yes!

I visited the church for a Bible institute graduation and I actually mentioned to my husband that there were no black people at the church that morning. We both felt this was odd until the evening service. After that service there was no double in our minds that Ruckman is a racist and very mean spirited. I am an independent Baptist that believes the KJV is the living word of God. I found him disgraceful and I refuse to ever visit his church again.

Ruckman is also a proponent of the Gap Theory, which was very common to fundamentalism not so very long ago. The Gap Theory is inherently racist and has been quietly rejected (as has much of Classic Dispensationalism) by fundamental preachers over the last few decades. Some of the "old guard" have hung on to it, but it has been so discredited that the number is dwindling.

At some point I hope all of you take a step to look at what the manner in which this website seems to perform. There might not be any doubt as to the unorthodox and controversial ways in which Dr Ruckman preaches or composes his books however his endeavours to minister to the lost population of this world are uncomparable. Perhaps some of you should turn your bibles to Matthew 7 and read verse one, no matter your bible version,it should read along the lines of not judging others unless you want to be judged. I read these articles critiquing Dr Ruckmans style of illustrations or his beliefs or the manner in which he runs his church but that's not what matters. We are given a commission by the Lord to take light into the world, the awesome power and love of God should flow through us to the lost that they might be saved and know his love and salvation and experience eternal life through him. My comment is this: rather than focusing our scope on a man who has dedicated his life to preaching the word of God, our efforts should be exhausted on the missionfield ministering to those who truly need it. Last time I checked I was not perfect and neither are you, just a sinner saved by grace ie stop pointing fingers and spend some time with the Lord to get your heart right.

So...does Ruckman never do what you complain about? Does Ruckman never point fingers? Does Ruckman not critique the beliefs of others? Does Ruckman not judge others? How come he gets a pass? You talk about how the "love of God should flow through us," and yet Ruckman is the one who says that the Bible is "hate literature" and calls God a terrorist! See "Ruckman's twisted view of God." http://www.ruckmanism.org/twistedview Ruckman's "endeavours to minister to the lost population of this world" is not incomparable. There are many Gospel preachers who have seen more people under their ministry saved, called to the ministry, more missionaries sent out, etc., than Ruckman. If seeing many people saved qualified someone to be exempt from criticism, then someone like John R. Rice should have been left alone by Ruckman. And yet Ruckman called Rice a heretic, among other things. See http://www.ruckmanism.org/deterioratinglanguage Your failure to recognize that Ruckman is far more guilty of what you are accusing me of reminds me of the old adage, "There are none so blind as those who will not see."

It is funny how you try to make a race issue, and create controversy out of nothing. If "blacks" don't attend services there it is their issue, not his. i think you might be the racist.

Wow.   I suppose we are fortunate to live in a day when most people realize the Civil War ended a long time ago.  I am one who does not like to judge a person by their color but their Character.  Have you ever confronted Dr. Ruckman about your concerns?  I am not so sure it is "Christian" to have a web page devoted to, dare I say it, hate posts.  I wished I could tell you that everyone in the south, and even many in the north, have been cured of the raciest disease.  I am still amazed when I hear jokes about black people but you and I know they still occur and even black people tell white jokes.  My husband said, chew on everyone's cud and make your own milk.  I have been well taught under Dr. Ruckman.  It has been rare that I heard a bad remark just about blacks.  If you asked him what he meant, I'm sure he would tell you.  I think if I attempted to explain some of his comments it just would not come out right.  I grew up in de-segregation.  It was part of my childhood, busing, crimes, uproar, it was terrible.  Some never got over it.  It was God's grace that changed my heart as I am sure it did many.  We love Dr. Ruckman in our house, in spite of his flaws.  I have some too.  

It seems that if you really do not like for people to judge by color instead of by character, you would have written off Ruckman long ago instead of trying to defend him. I tried writing Ruckman once, and I got back the nastiest letter I have ever gotten.

Why don't you go visit Dr. Ruckman and have him answer all your concerns?  I know one thing for sure that he will let you do.  He will give you the pulpit as long as you want to discuss anything you feel needs to be discussed.  Give him a call. 

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